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Re: [isp-wireless] 2155-2180 MHz spectrum anyone?
There are two time sensitive coverage requirements which a consortium would not be able to ensure were met. It might be possible then for all members to loose everything when those coverage requirements were not met. This is a *national* license, lest we forget.

-m-


Robert Andrews wrote:
I like that.

Daniel Mullen wrote:
If you cannot agree, you cannot join the club. It is really elegant - opt to join and you accept that you may have to share alike and play well together. If you do not agree, you cannot join. But then one or all of your competitors may agree and you are then frozen out.

This could be the model for finally being able to market service nationwide so that each local operator has more prestige and revenues.

Daniel

At 17:57 27.05.2008, you wrote:
No way would the six providers here cooperate on a dedicated frequency... The can0pe providers won't even sync here... It's dog eat dog...

Robert

Daniel Mullen wrote:
So far that would seem like a very unlikely situation.

It is pretty easy: if you have sites, install the gear. If you do not want to play, stay home. If three operators in exactly the same area want to participate, you could have "pooling of interests" so that all are sharing the same network. It is being done nationwide in Canada except there are only two national providers on the entire network.

The model would be to create a national association or "buyer group" that will participate along with a general management partner. I would set this up so that the networks are owned by local operators but the spectrum goes to those who meet the service commitments. It would be very easy to meet the conditions like coverage this way, and WISPs would be motivated to have clear spectrum.

Daniel

At 17:04 27.05.2008, you wrote:
So how does one handle territory disputes? What if two, three, or even four wisps want to deploy in the same area? Is it first come, first serve? Is there some kind of financial requirement to make sure that a given wisp will be able to deploy? What will the coverage requirements be? This works with PCS/Cellular because all those little guys had to cough up the cash to buy the license in the first place. They have exclusivity in that band and nobody else can compete on that spectrum...a nice position. You have a good idea here, but it will be an organizational nightmare. You might be better off creating a business plan and raising money to do this on your own and then inviting specific wisp's to join.

Cameron

Daniel Mullen wrote:
Apathy actually.

At 01:57 27.05.2008, you wrote:
I kinda like the idea myself. we could in effect provide a "tier" of free service, a standard that could roam among locations with a "standard" pricing plan among all wisp's for the cost plans. and a negotiable charge for roaming charges per wisp.
The cellular companies have been doing it for years. I dont see any reason we could not?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Mullen" <daniel.mullen@....ca>
To: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:36 PM
Subject: [isp-wireless] 2155-2180 MHz spectrum anyone?


Spectrum for free, maybe, if you can roll out
nation wide. Would this not be a great time to
talk about a national cooperative bid by the WISP
industry to get its own spectrum, at ZERO cost
and to be on a level playing field of sorts
against the biggest telecom operations in the country?

From: http://www.rcrnews.com

FCC may auction another 25 MHz of spectrum
'AWS III' licensee could be required to provide free service


By Jeffrey Silva
Story posted: May 23, 2008 - 2:40 pm EDT

Federal Communications Commission Chairman Kevin
Martin scheduled a vote on rules for another
major spectrum auction, one that would encompass
25 megahertz in the 2155-2180 MHz advanced
wireless services band and require the winning
bidder to offer free broadband service under an aggressive build-out schedule.

"We've had a variety of proposals that had come
into the commission originally where some people
wanted us to give them the spectrum," said Martin
in a briefing with reporters. The FCC chief said
a vote may be held at the agency's upcoming June
12 meeting, but added it is possible the measure
could be approved before that date.

Martin said that a licensee of the 2155-2180 MHz
spectrum (referred to as the AWS III band) would
have to provide a free service tier, and would
have to reach 50% of the population in four years
and 95% of the population by the end of the license term.

Martin also said the agency will initiate a
separate rulemaking on what to do with other AWS frequencies.

The FCC earlier this year auctioned 62 megahertz
of 700 MHz spectrum, raising almost $20 billion.

It is unclear whether the FCC would hold the AWS
III auction later this year, and if that auction
will affect the agency's plans to re-auction of
the 700 MHz D Block. The D Block - whose rules
currently call for a public safety-private sector
partnership via a national license - was not
claimed in the 700 MHz auction because no bidder
met the $1.3 billion reserve price.

Interestingly, Martin's plans for the AWS III
spectrum draw on the free wireless broadband
access proposal first advocated by M2Z Networks
Inc. The FCC dismissed M2Z's application for
spectrum, and the company subsequently challenged
the FCC ruling in federal appeals court.

Meantime, Reps. Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.) and
Christopher Cannon (R-Utah) are pushing a bill to
foster deployment of a national, family-friendly
wireless broadband network with open access.
Their bill envisions one auction of airwaves in
the 2155-2180 MHz band and another auction
involving yet-to-be-determined spectrum below 3 GHz.

The mobile phone industry generally opposes
conditions on spectrum auctioned by the FCC.





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