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RE: [isp-wireless] What do you think?
As *bad* as this sounds, it is worth noting that the rest of media
(newspaper, magazine, cable/broadcast TV, etc) does run a somewhat similar
model

For some reason, it seems that the market rate for mass-market consumer
adoption of such technology (say broadband for example) is significantly
lower than the base cost of providing such service...

My (somewhat flawed) example -- 1.0 Mb broadband

My calculations using a regional network (approximately 50 miles of
last-mile transport required) a true 1.0 Mb broadband connection (from
bandwidth to CPE, if completely utilized 100% of the time) seems to cost
about $200-$400 / month to provide (this includes amortized infrastructure,
transit, transport, CPE, etc)

The largest factor that allows ISPs to profitably "lose money" on this
$200-$400 / month connection at $29 - $49 / month is the concept of
oversubscription -- we know generally that broadband users today, on a
sustained basis, don't generally consume very much bandwidth (it's bursty,
blah blah blah) -- b/c of this, we are able to get extremely
oversubscription numbers as high as 1000 users @ 10 Mb sustained (@ the
95%).

The problem I see is that many of these advanced next-gen applications
(e.g., streaming video, bittorrent, skype etc) create additional stress on
the network that significantly alters the service providers oversubscription
model...

A personal issue that I have w/ many of these net neutrality people is that
they run around screaming about the problems, but have yet to present a
viable solution to solving this issue...

IMO, in the end, it comes down to who pays for the additional traffic load?

Possible answers?

A. Consumers (e.g., usage based billing)

B. Content providers (Internet tolls & taxes)

-Charles

P.S. -- Out of curiosity, I wonder what the net neutrality crowd would say
about the reinstatement of usage-based billing

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CWLab
Technology Architects
http://www.cwlab.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Broadwick [mailto:jefflist@...] 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:42 PM
To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Cc: 'WISPA General List'; WISP@part-15.org; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: [isp-wireless] What do you think?


Sorry for the cross post...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/25/the.web.toll/index.html



Coming soon: The Web toll
New laws may transform cyberspace and the way you surf it

By Tim Folger
Popular Science

(PopSci.comexternal link) -- What if the Internet were like cable
television, with Web sites grouped like channels into either basic or
premium offerings? What if a few big companies decided which sites loaded
quickly and which ones slowly, or not at all, on your computer?

Welcome to the brave new Web, brought to you by Verizon, Bell South, AT&T
and the other telecommunications giants (including PopSci and CNN.com's
parent company, Time Warner) that are now lobbying Congress to block laws
that would prevent a two-tiered Internet, with a fast lane for Web sites
able to afford it and a slow lane for everyone else.

Specifically, such companies want to charge Web sites for the speedy
delivery of streaming video, television, movies and other high-bandwidth
data to their customers. If they get their way (Congress may vote on the
matter before the year is out), the days of wide-open cyberspace are
numbered.

As things stand now, the telecoms provide the lines -- copper, cable or
fiber-optic -- and the other hardware that connects Web sites to consumers.

But they don't influence, or profit from, the content that flows to you
from, say, cinemanow.com; they simply supply the pipelines. In effect, they
are impartial middlemen, leaving you free to browse the entire Internet
without worrying about connection speeds to your favorite sites.

That looks set to change. In April a House subcommittee rejected a measure
by Rep. Edward Markey of Massachusetts (D) that would have prevented
telecoms from charging Web sites extra fees based on bandwidth usage.

The telecom industry sees such remuneration as fair compensation for the
substantial cost of maintaining and upgrading the infrastructure that makes
high-bandwidth services, such as streaming video, possible.

Christopher Yoo, a professor at Vanderbilt University Law School, argues
that consumers should be willing to pay for faster delivery of content on
the Internet, just as many FedEx customers willingly shell out extra for
overnight delivery. "A regulatory approach that allows companies to pursue a
strategy like FedEx's makes sense," he says.

On a technical level, creating this so-called Internet fast lane is easy. In
the current system, network devices called differentiated service routers
prioritize data, assigning more bandwidth to, for example, an Internet
telephone call or streaming video than to an e-mail message.

With a tiered Internet, such routing technology could be used preferentially
to deliver either the telecoms' own services or those of companies who had
paid the requisite fees.

What does this mean for the rest of us? A stealth Web tax, for one thing.

"Google and Amazon and Yahoo are not going to slice those payments out of
their profit margins and eat them," says Ben Scott, policy director for Free
Press, a nonprofit group that monitors media-related legislation. "They're
going to pass them on to the consumer. So I'll end up paying twice. I'm
going to pay my $29.99 a month for access, and then I'm going to pay higher
prices for consumer goods all across the economy because these Internet
companies will charge more for online advertising."

Worse still, Scott argues, the plan stands to sour your Web experience. If,
for instance, your favorite blogger refused to ante up, her pages would load
more slowly on your computer than would content from Web sites that had paid
the fees.

Which brings up another sticking point: A tiered system would give
established companies with deep pockets a huge competitive edge over
cash-strapped start-ups consigned to slow lanes.

"We have to remember that some of the companies that we now consider to be
titans of the Internet started literally as guys in a garage," Scott
says."That's the beauty and the brilliance of the Internet, yet we're
cavalierly talking about tossing it out the window."

Jeffrey Broadwick, Sales Manager
ImageStream Internet Solutions
"Routers for the Real World!"
800-813-5123 x106      (USA)
+1 574-935-8484 x106   (Int'l)
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www.imagestream.com
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