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Thread Index [isp-wireless] RE: P2P blocking and Mikrotik
No 11b. All FHSS. 11b will not work in this market. We have about FHSS 40 points of presence. -----Original Message----- From: Jeromie Reeves [mailto:jreeves@speedexpress.net] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:34 PM To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [isp-wireless] RE: P2P blocking and Mikrotik Are you using 11b for the last mile?? I find that our out is about balanced with our in(more in during the day, more out during the night) with a overall 10% skew. We charge a user for the BW and explain that if they share, they pay. We also explain we will give there name if a correctly legal request come's to us. Most get the idea and are responsible. We explain that our services are like water, you pay for XX/mo and pay for over use. Everyone we sit down with and have a good talk with treats the connection far better then the ones we just install and walk away from. Maybe its a function of size vs time spent with customer type??? We are small even by wISP standards, even tho we cover more then our competitor. Jeromie Reeves At 03:02 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: >It has been our experience that 99% of the trouble that P2P networks >cause is due to outgoing traffic. We have gotten numerous complaints >from customers stating that ever since they got wireless, their >computers are running very slow. EVERY ONE of them was due to having >everybody in the world download from their computer as fast as it can >dish it out. The RIAA isn't truly concerned with people downloading the >music, they're concerned with people distributing the music. You >eliminate people from distributing it, you eliminate people downloading >it. > >We have been successfully filtering OUTGOING P2P traffic for over 2 >months now and have not had a single complaint. Downloads are just as >fast as before, uploads are just throttled back to 1k/sec. Now the few >customers on our network who believe in the P2P ideals and want to >share their music with the rest of the world, we point them to our TOS >which states "no servers allowed on residential connections" and offer >them the business connection. Never once did we receive a request to >switch. Most people have this idea that the Internet is free. It isn't. >WE have to pay for the bandwidth and quite frankly, if I have customers >complaining about their download speeds due to the 5+ times more >outgoing traffic filling the lines, P2P is the first to go. 8MB/s out >vs 2MB/s in is a serious problem regardless of how you look at it. > >Mike > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bryan Clark" <bryan@eburg.com> >To: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:35 PM >Subject: [isp-wireless] RE: P2P blocking and Mikrotik > > >| Is this P2P blocking feature only available in the 2.8 beta version >| right now? And if not... how do I get in on this action? :) >| >| Gino Villarini wrote: >| >| >we just installed this yesterday too... but we are not blocking p2p, >| >we >just >| >gave them a 100 kbps for all to share! they wouldnt know the diff, >because >| >they think the place they're downloading from is slow! >| > >| >Gino >| > >| >-----Original Message----- >| >From: Erik Stave [mailto:erik@pfbiz.com] >| >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:05 PM >| >To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com >| >Subject: [isp-wireless] P2P blocking and Mikrotik >| > >| > >| >Last week I installed a Mikrotik 2.8beta box configured as a bridge >| >after the router. We are blocking P2P file sharing and the results >| >have been very entertaining. People will not actually call up and >| >tell you that Kazaa is not working. It is the "Internet" has stopped >| >working... Or I cannot get to the sites that I need. >| > >| >We have had one customer cancel... Traffic during the daytime has >| >remained the same essentially, but evening and weekend traffic is >| >25-30% lower. >| > >| > >| >Erik Stave >| >VP/CTO >| >erik@pfbiz.com >| >Prairie Fire Communications >| >140 N Phillips, Suite 404 >| >Sioux Falls, SD 57104 >| > >| > >| >I've stopped 3,677 spam messages. You can too! >| >One month FREE spam protection at >| >http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| >| >| >| >| >| > > > <- Previous Message | Next Message -> Thread Index |
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