The LEA is actively working with the FCC's staff here in Boston to
address some of these issues.  What we really need is more funding - we
get our money from WCA, but it is getting increasingly difficult to pay
for everything WISPs want to do in Washington on WCA's limited budget,
particularly given the economy right now.  What I've usually done to
lighten the load is have individual member companies form smaller
coalitions among themselves, to provide additional support to the
organization (hopefully they are already members) and share the costs of
doing so.  This has the advantage of reducing each company's costs while
giving the FCC a close-up view of what WISPs are thinking.  If you'd
like more information about how to do this, please contact me off-list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maurice [mailto:Maurice@...Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:12 AM
To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: Re: HAMs to possibly get 2400-2402mhz as primary users

Hi Robert,
I have been a WISP for a little over three years, with no problems so
far
except trees  ;-)
So if 2.4 to 2.4835 Ghz. is license free what is a licensed Ham doing
using
unlicensed spectrum, and interfering with WISP's that have invested
hundreds
of thousands of dollars to build out their network, and a Ham comes in
the
area of a WISP and all of a sudden the HAM has all the rights to
interfere
with a network and a persons income!    All because he/she has an
amateur
radio license....???
If this is the case then all of the WISP's need to get together and
petition
the FCC to protect the hard work, time, and investment we have made.
Even
if it takes getting the FCC to create a licensing program/system for
WISP's
to give us the rights to protect our investments!

Granted we are using an unlicensed spectrum and equipment.   But as I
have
understood there are over 5000 WISP's so far in the USA, and this number
is
growing daily!.... but as a single company none of us stands a chance,
but
as a group we would have a much stronger voice and more power.
Why not get the FCC to make the 2.4, 5.2 & 5.7 Ghz. outdoor products and
spectrum for WISP's only.
The manufactures for the indoor products would not be affected, and the
indoor products would not affect the WISP's, as most indoor networks are
rapidly switching over to 802.11a 54 Mbps. radios and clients, and the
range
is not far maybe 100' with out an external antenna which would be
illegal
anyway.

If as a whole we do not stand together and fight for what we as WISP's
have
accomplished and built from nothing, the we do not stand a snowballs
chance
in hell!

Just my 2 cents!!!


Maurice

----- Original Message -----
From: "Primosch, Robert" <RPrimosch@...>
To: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: HAMs to possibly get 2400-2402mhz as primary users


Nothing different than today - if they are licensed, they have superior
rights in any case.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maurice [mailto:Maurice@...Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 1:44 PM
To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: Re: HAMs to possibly get 2400-2402mhz as primary users

Hi Robert,
If the FCC allows this to happen, what will happen to the WISP'S using
2.4
Ghz. when a HAM turns on his/her gear and transmits????

Maurice

----- Original Message -----
From: "Primosch, Robert" <RPrimosch@...>
To: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 12:33 AM
Subject: RE: HAMs to possibly get 2400-2402mhz as primary users


The primary allocation for the amateurs at 2400-2402 MHz is probably a
done deal, but the real problem is whether the amateurs use this docket
as another vehicle for attacking the FCC's authority to allow
license-exempt services to exist - they've given every indication that
this is now one of their high priority items.  Also, there's some
indication that they intend to use the proposed secondary allocation at
5 GHz as a basis for opposing adoption of a globally harmonized
allocation for RLANs at 5 GHz, which will be up for discussion at next
year's World Radiocommunication Conference (WRC-2003).

-----Original Message-----
From: ravstar [mailto:ravstar@...Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 10:00 PM
To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: HAMs to possibly get 2400-2402mhz as primary users

FCC Invites Public Comments on New Amateur Band Proposals
NEWINGTON, CT, Jun 18, 2002--Public comments on FCC proposals to create
two
new amateur bands and to make the Amateur Service primary at 2400 to
2402
MHz are due July 29, and reply comments are due by August 12. In
response to
an ARRL petition, the FCC last month released a Notice of Proposed Rule
Making (ET Docket 02-98) that proposed to create a new 5-MHz HF
allocation
and a new low-frequency band in the vicinity of 136 kHz in addition to
elevating amateurs from secondary to primary at 2400 to 2402 MHz.

The FCC adopted the NPRM May 2 on a unanimous vote. The NPRM was
published
June 14 in The Federal Register. A copy of the petition is available on
the
ARRL Web site. Interested parties may file comments via the FCC's
Electronic
Comment Filing System (ECFS). To view filed comments, click on "Search
for
Filed Comments;" to file a comment, click on "Submit a filing." In
either
case, enter "02-98" in the "Proceeding" field.
http://www.fcc.gov/e-file/ecfs.html

If the proposals eventually are approved, amateurs would gain a new,
secondary, domestic (US-only) HF allocation at 5.25 to 5.40 MHz and a
new LF
"sliver band" at 135.7 to 137.8 kHz. The 5 MHz band would be the first
new
HF allocation since the early 1980s, when amateurs got 30, 17 and 12
meters.
The LF allocation would be the first ever for US hams.

The FCC said it agreed with ARRL's assertion, made in its Petition for
Rule
Making, that the vagaries of propagation and interference in the 80 and
40-meter bands occasionally hinder effective HF communication and that a
5-MHz allocation would be a viable complement to those bands. The
Commission
has recommended permitting amateurs to operate at full legal limit on a
new
5-MHz allocation, but it left open for further discussion whether to
restrict band access to certain license classes. The FCC also has
invited
further comment on whether the band should be broken down into
mode-specific
subbands. In its Petition, the ARRL proposed opening the entire band to
RTTY, data (including CW), phone and image emission types.

The band 5.250 to 5.450 MHz now is allocated worldwide to Fixed and
Mobile
services on a co-primary basis.

On 136 kHz, the FCC has proposed limiting output to 1 W effective
isotropic
radiated power (EIRP) and with a transmission bandwidth of only 100 Hz.
The
ARRL has asked for than 2 W EIRP and a maximum transmitter power of 200
W
PEP. The FCC proposed no restrictions on antenna size or design, saying
it
did not want to inhibit experimentation by hams. It proposed to limit
access
to the band to General and higher-class licensees, as ARRL had proposed.
The
FCC did not go along with an ARRL request to establish an amateur
allocation
in the 160 to 190-kHz band, which for many years has been home to
hobby-type
experimentation under FCC Part 15 rules.




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