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[isp-tech] RE: Tracking down 'Outbound' port 137 / 139
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  • Subject: [isp-tech] RE: Tracking down 'Outbound' port 137 / 139
  • From: "Chris Schmidt" <schmidtc@...>
  • Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 06:01:17 -0700

Turn off netbios under the Network Control Panel/TCP/IP.

http://www.iss.net/security_center/advice/Exploits/Ports/137/default.htm
http://www.iss.net/security_center/advice/Exploits/Ports/139/default.htm

http://www.linklogger.com/TCP139.htm


This isn't really out of the ordinary. Windows uses Netbios in some weird ways. I turn it off on all my servers and haven't had a problem so far.

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Farrell Christeson [mailto:spamthis@...]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:05 AM
To: isp-tech@isp-tech.com
Subject: [isp-tech] Tracking down 'Outbound' port 137 / 139


I have notticed something on my mail server that I don't understand... or
maybe I'm just in denial.

After installing a stateful  firewall on my Win2kPro Server a while back I
notticed bursts of outbound UDP attempts from "Source port 137 to
destination IP port 137" and outbound TCP "Sorce IP 1822  destination IP
139" . The destination IP when I first notticed it was always  my lan IP
range .255. I disregarded it as Microsoft resource sharing broadcast crap
and put hunting it down someware towards the bottom of the 'to do' list.

The other day I just happened to be watching the live log in the firewall ,
I was actually working on a connection issue someone was having with
connecting to that server, when I notticed one of those blocked outgoing
port 137's wasn't to my network. The firewall allows me to right click the
events and look up who owns the IP... it was an IP belonging to
AutoDesk.com. First thoughts " Ok, if this is just MS sharing crap, were did
my server come up with the IP for AutoDesk and why is it trying to talk to
AutoDesk on 137 in the first place".

 I went digging through the logs to see if at any point a connection from
any AutoDesk IP had been made to my server  ( it is a mail server after
all ) but instead ran into dozens of other events were my server had
attemted to connect to other networks on port 137 and 139.  Now I wanted the
answer to two questions - why is my server trying to connect to port 137 /
139 on other networks and - where is it getting the IP's for these networks
because my firewall shows no refrence to these IP's anywere other than when
my server tries to connect to them on those two ports.

I have ran everything from AVG AntiVirus to Trend Micro Antivirus (online
Housecall and downloaded their tialware).  Nothing has found a single thing
on the system. I even ran Adaware and SpyBot S&D but nothing. Hijackthis ,
and host of trojan  / worm / virus detectors... nothing.

How do I hunt this thing down ? Is this normal ? Even if it is, were is my
server getting the IP's from in the first place. Yes it is a mail server but
the ip's it try's to connect to show up nowere else , I can see all the port
25 traffic but I never see were any of the IP's it tries to connect to show
up as ever sending / receiving email to / from the server.

 I know that the process doing it is " System " but that is all any software
I have found so far can tell me.  I have run a dozen programs that should be
able to tell me what is opening those ports. The most any program has been
able to tell me so far is this :

System:8 TCP gotrainemail:microsoft-ds gotrainemail:0 LISTENING
System:8 TCP netbios-ssn gotrainemail:0 LISTENING
System:8 TCP gotrainemail:1892 localhost:microsoft-ds TIME_WAIT
System:8 UDP gotrainemail:microsoft-ds *:*
System:8 UDP train10.train.missouri.org:netbios-ns *:*
System:8 UDP train10.train.missouri.org:netbios-dgm *:*

That is a paste from Sysinternals  TCPView ,  and it shows pretty much the
same thing everything else does. I know it is the microsoft-ds  and -ns
doing it. I have shut off every Service on the server I do not need , I have
nothing running that has anything to do with file / print  sharing. The box
runs as a stand alone server and it does not have any DNS / DOMAIN or any
other services running on it.  I have hunted down every process running that
I can find and none of them are 'obviously' something that should not be
there.  " System" does indeed show up in everything I have as PID 8 , I
can't kill it even if I wanted to.   All other process , in every program I
have tried show no only the Process and PID but the name/location of
whatever is running it or whatever called whatever is runnning the process ,
except for this one. Nothing shows anything about this mysterious  Process
number 8  other than it is  'System'.

Any suggestions ?  Anyone knows of a program that might help to hunt this
thing down ? Or is this normal on a MS Win2k box ?


I'm running Win2kPro Server  all patches current (SP4+)
Visnetic MailServer
Visnetic Firewall for Servers
MS SQL 7 Server

Nothing else... not even an email client on the machine.

Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.

Farrell Christeson


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