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RE: [isp-marketing] Article
Holy shit.  It's Doug McDonald!


John McKown, President
Delaware.Net, Inc. 




-----Original Message-----
From: Doug McDonald [mailto:lists@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:10 AM
To: isp-marketing@isp-marketing.com
Subject: Re: [isp-marketing] Article

Brock Henderson wrote:
> I am hoping some of you will be kind enough to give me some feedback 
> on my recent article for ISP Planet, "The Ostrich Situation".
Brock,

Please allow me to extricate myself from my self imposed exile. While 
I've spent most of the last few years working for companies that many 
would consider the enemies, I have been paying attention to the plight 
of the independent service provider. I almost came out of lurk mode a 
couple of months back when Alex asked about sales and marketing concerns 
but held off. (See P.S. - Nothing to do on a plane... typing = easy)

There is nothing new in what you are writing about. I have sat and 
listened to you talk about just such services and the need to be 
interested if not involved before, and I know that you've listened to me 
speak on varying themes before as well. If I recall correctly you and I 
spoke collectively with a back up provider after one of your 
presentations almost 7 years ago in Dallas. For my part, and for many 
others here, you are preaching to the choir. That's OK though, sometimes 
that's what's needed to get us to sing.

At the risk of being blunt, something that no one has ever accused me of 
being afraid of, not offering off-site backup is stupid. Not providing a 
service that is literally pay as you go is dumb... period. You do not 
provide anything other than the means to do so. You cut a deal with any 
one of a dozen places that offer it and you do it. If they charge you $5 
per MB per month you charge $10 for good customers and $20 for bad. Done 
deal... What's so hard about that? I can personally guarantee you that 
if you do not get this piece locked up tight within the next couple 
quarters at most, it will be gone.  There are a great number of others 
looking at this. Not the least of which is (INSERT you least favorite 
telecom) company, let alone Amazon.com or the OS providers of your 
clients machines.

There are a dozen ways to let the telco have all the connectivity $$ and 
take all the actually profitable services that ride on it. Not forever 
though. The longer you keep your head "in the sand" to borrow a kinder 
euphemism from Brock's piece, the harder it will get. The majority of 
the people who are on this list know that, I hope.

The (please be vastly) larger majority of surviving service providers 
know this and are if not executing towards it, at least are working on 
their plans. I don't know as many of you as I once did. I don't know any 
of the new ones. I do know the ones who are still in business because 
they either knew enough, or were lucky enough,  to adapt to a changing 
marketplace and business environment that many people including Brock 
who've been here for a while have been predicting since the '99-'00 time 
frame. I have a recording of a 2 hour presentation I did at the ISPC in 
Feb. 99 in which I predicted that people who did not have 10k subs 
within 2 years would probably be in trouble. I was not entirely wrong. 
Now may well be your latest "Last time" to start looking at ways of 
generating new revenues. While it's probably not your last time, it's 
certainly the best time. Listening to Brock's advice, or mine is easy. 
Acting on it is the crucial part. If you can not do it yourself, call 
some one who will help you. Brock can, so can I, so can others. Brock's 
really good at getting you started on this though.

Best regards, and hello, I'm not yet dead for those who were wondering,

Doug McDonald
lists@...
.us - 717-704-0061
.ca - 647-204-4800





P.S. - The Top Sales vs. Marketing Concern from Jan 08

My initial thought on this was that there was a time when "Sales" = 
"Putting something on Sale" and that "Marketing" = "Running and Ad for 
what is on 'Sale'"

That's the way too many on this list used to look at things. That's the 
way that too many of the people in this business that should not be, 
STILL look at things. That's the attitude and beliefs that took away a 
few thousand "peer companies" and is likely to take away a few dozen or 
maybe even hundred more.

I bit my tongue and did not respond that way because I thought surely 
everyone had changed their thinking through real experience or at the 
very least the demise of others. I was mostly right. Not entirely 
though. A developing theme in my life.

No company is too large nor too small to market appropriately. You can 
in fact defeat the largest and best known brands in certain areas... for 
a while. If you are too successful for too long in too profitable an 
area though, they'll do their level best to kill you through ad $$. 
Smart and targeted marketing $ beats blanket Ad $ almost every time for 
the people you care about. An overwhelming blanket ad, is not worth 
fighting. Avoiding, challenging, persecuting and/or prosecuting on the 
other hand.

Know before you act. Think before you act. Be prepared to react once you 
have chosen to act. But if you do nothing else, act.




** ISPCON Spring 2008 - May 13 - 15- Chicago, IL  www.ispcon.com **
** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT **
Get inside the mind of your customers, find out how at ISPCON.

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