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From: "William Devine, II" <william@...>
Reply-To: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
To: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
Subject: [isp-dns] RE: isp-dns digest: January 18, 2003
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:34:24 -0600

My preference is DirectNic, it is $15/yr (more than openSRS, but I love the
interface, able to do mass changes, and I manage tons of domains for clients
through it.)
For $5/yr, they'll also do DNS for you that your clients can manage
themselves.

william

-----Original Message-----
From: ISP-DNS Discussion List digest
[mailto:isp-dns@...Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 02:00 AM
To: isp-dns digest recipients
Subject: isp-dns digest: January 18, 2003


ISP-DNS Digest for Saturday, January 18, 2003.

1. Re: control of reverse dns
2. Re: control of reverse dns
3. Arghhh... Network Solutions
4. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
5. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
6. RE: Arghhh... Network Solutions
7. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
8. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
9. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
10. RE: Arghhh... Network Solutions

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Subject: Re: control of reverse dns
From: "Frederik Wille" <frederik.wille@....be>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:23:02 +0100
X-Message-Number: 1

Ask your provider to create a CNAME for your reverse addresses. Like that,
they keep control and you have what you want.
A CNAMe must be created fot every IP adress in tour range that you want to
manage and has to point tot your name servers.


Best Regards,

fred

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: R. Scott Perry [mailto:horizons@...Verzonden: zaterdag 18 januari 2003 3:19
Aan: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
Onderwerp: [isp-dns] Re: control of reverse dns



>I would really like to be able to control the reverse lookups for my
>addresses, but my upstream provider won't let me. This is what I received
>in response to me asking them if I could be the authoritative IN-ADDR DNS
>server for the addresses they gave me.

Then that is what you are stuck with, unfortunately.

>## It is our policy [not to let customers be the authoritative IN-ADDR
>## DNS server for the addresses we assign to them]. <my upstream
>## provider> owns the address space and will not give someone else
>## the ownership of the address space. The reverse can be changed
>## but would need to be changed by <my upstream provider>.
>
>Is the barrier technical, administrative, or political?

It is administrative/political. They have the ability to delegate
authority to you, but choose not to.

>The smallest allotment of addresses that ARIN doles out is a /20. There is
>no way that I can justify needing that many addresses at this point.

Even if you get IP addresses directly from have ARIN, you need some way for
those IPs to be routed to you -- so you'll need to switch Internet
providers anyways (if your current provider won't let you be authoritative
for your reverse DNS, it is unlikely that they will allow you to route your
own IPs through them.

>ARIN's solution according to their website is for me to get addresses from
my
>upstream provider. It doesn't seem fair that I wouldn't be able to control
>the reverse lookups for those addresses. Please let me know if there is
>anything I can do to make this possible. Is my upstream provider
>misbehaving or is this standard behavior? If they are misbehaving is there
>someone that I can file a complaint with (ARIN?)?

Those IPs "belong" to your Internet provider. They can choose what to do
with them. In this case, they are not allowing their customers to have
control over the reverse DNS (for example, many dialup and home DSL/cable
ISPs do not allow their customers to control the reverse DNS).

In this case, your options appear to be:

[1] Let your ISP handle the reverse DNS. Reverse DNS entries rarely need
to be changed, so for most people, this would be satisfactory.
[2] Switch ISPs

-Scott
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Subject: Re: control of reverse dns
From: "Dave" <dave@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:57:55 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

as follows:

50 IN CNAME 50.9.99.999.in-addr.domain.net.
51 IN CNAME 51.9.99.999.in-addr.domain.net.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frederik Wille" <frederik.wille@....be>
To: <isp-dns@isp-dns.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:23 AM
Subject: [isp-dns] Re: control of reverse dns


> Ask your provider to create a CNAME for your reverse addresses. Like that,
> they keep control and you have what you want.
> A CNAMe must be created fot every IP adress in tour range that you want to
> manage and has to point tot your name servers.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> fred
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: R. Scott Perry [mailto:horizons@...> Verzonden: zaterdag 18 januari 2003 3:19
> Aan: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
> Onderwerp: [isp-dns] Re: control of reverse dns
>
>
>
> >I would really like to be able to control the reverse lookups for my
> >addresses, but my upstream provider won't let me. This is what I
received
> >in response to me asking them if I could be the authoritative IN-ADDR DNS
> >server for the addresses they gave me.
>
> Then that is what you are stuck with, unfortunately.
>
> >## It is our policy [not to let customers be the authoritative IN-ADDR
> >## DNS server for the addresses we assign to them]. <my upstream
> >## provider> owns the address space and will not give someone else
> >## the ownership of the address space. The reverse can be changed
> >## but would need to be changed by <my upstream provider>.
> >
> >Is the barrier technical, administrative, or political?
>
> It is administrative/political. They have the ability to delegate
> authority to you, but choose not to.
>
> >The smallest allotment of addresses that ARIN doles out is a /20. There
is
> >no way that I can justify needing that many addresses at this point.
>
> Even if you get IP addresses directly from have ARIN, you need some way
for
> those IPs to be routed to you -- so you'll need to switch Internet
> providers anyways (if your current provider won't let you be authoritative
> for your reverse DNS, it is unlikely that they will allow you to route
your
> own IPs through them.
>
> >ARIN's solution according to their website is for me to get addresses
from
> my
> >upstream provider. It doesn't seem fair that I wouldn't be able to
control
> >the reverse lookups for those addresses. Please let me know if there is
> >anything I can do to make this possible. Is my upstream provider
> >misbehaving or is this standard behavior? If they are misbehaving is
there
> >someone that I can file a complaint with (ARIN?)?
>
> Those IPs "belong" to your Internet provider. They can choose what to do
> with them. In this case, they are not allowing their customers to have
> control over the reverse DNS (for example, many dialup and home DSL/cable
> ISPs do not allow their customers to control the reverse DNS).
>
> In this case, your options appear to be:
>
> [1] Let your ISP handle the reverse DNS. Reverse DNS entries rarely need
> to be changed, so for most people, this would be satisfactory.
> [2] Switch ISPs
>
> -Scott
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> Declude Virus: Catches both viruses and vulnerabilities in E-mail, with no
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>
>

>


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Subject: Arghhh... Network Solutions
From: Ed Clarke <clarke@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:24:18 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 3

I need to move all of my domains to some registrar that is competent or
almost competent. As far as I can tell, Verisign/Network-Solutions is
totally useless. For example: last year I wanted to register three domains
for three years each... They've registered the first one for NINE YEARS
and the other two for one year.

Enough. I'm not even going to try and fix it. My original domain is
running out ( registered with the individual forms rather than the WEB
based thing they have now ) and these idiots can't even give me a way
to update it! My account number predates the web thing and won't work
with it.

Would the list (you) please email me a recommendation for a replacement
for Network Solutions and I will summarize the responses to the list?
Please don't be funny, I know they could be replaced by a retarded chimp
but I'm looking for a domain registrar. I'd like one that will let me
fill out forms AND reach a human if there's a problem.

Thanks -

Ed Clarke
clarke@...

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Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
From: "Andrew P. Kaplan" <noc@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:50:27 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4

>>I'd like one that will let me fill out forms AND reach a human if there's
a problem.

tucows, tucows, tucows.

Andrew


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Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
From: "Ahmad Masood" <jahil@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:52:47 +0500
X-Message-Number: 5

How can I make mirror with tucows with my own server here in Pakistan.


Best Regs,
Masood Ahmad Shah


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew P. Kaplan" <noc@...>
To: <isp-dns@isp-dns.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:50 PM
Subject: [isp-dns] Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions


> >>I'd like one that will let me fill out forms AND reach a human if
there's
> a problem.
>
> tucows, tucows, tucows.
>
> Andrew
>
>

>


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Subject: RE: Arghhh... Network Solutions
From: "Mike Tindall" <lists@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:19:22 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6


I agree with the motions for Tucows.

Mike


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Clarke [mailto:clarke@...> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:24 AM
> To: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
> Subject: [isp-dns] Arghhh... Network Solutions
>
>
> I need to move all of my domains to some registrar that is
> competent or almost competent.  As far as I can tell,
> Verisign/Network-Solutions is totally useless.  For example:
> last year I wanted to register three domains for three years
> each...  They've registered the first one for NINE YEARS and
> the other two for one year.
>
> Enough.  I'm not even going to try and fix it.  My original
> domain is running out ( registered with the individual forms
> rather than the WEB based thing they have now ) and these
> idiots can't even give me a way to update it!  My account
> number predates the web thing and won't work with it.
>
> Would the list (you) please email me a recommendation for a
> replacement
> for Network Solutions and I will summarize the responses to
> the list? Please don't be funny, I know they could be
> replaced by a retarded chimp but I'm looking for a domain
> registrar.  I'd like one that will let me fill out forms AND
> reach a human if there's a problem.
>
> Thanks -
>
> Ed Clarke
> clarke@...
>

>
>


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Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
From: "Mister.Net" <mister@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:24:27 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7

If you are looking for a good domain registrar along with free hosting (w=
ith
no banners), I would like you to check out Mister.net http://Mister.net

Sam



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Clarke" <clarke@...>
To: <isp-dns@isp-dns.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:24 AM
Subject: [isp-dns] Arghhh... Network Solutions


> I need to move all of my domains to some registrar that is competent or
> almost competent.  As far as I can tell, Verisign/Network-Solutions is
> totally useless.  For example: last year I wanted to register three
domains
> for three years each...  They've registered the first one for NINE YEAR=
S
> and the other two for one year.
>
> Enough.  I'm not even going to try and fix it.  My original domain is
> running out ( registered with the individual forms rather than the WEB
> based thing they have now ) and these idiots can't even give me a way
> to update it!  My account number predates the web thing and won't work
> with it.
>
> Would the list (you) please email me a recommendation for a replacement
> for Network Solutions and I will summarize the responses to the list?
> Please don't be funny, I know they could be replaced by a retarded chim=
p
> but I'm looking for a domain registrar.  I'd like one that will let me
> fill out forms AND reach a human if there's a problem.
>
> Thanks -
>
> Ed Clarke
> clarke@...
>

>


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Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
From: William X Walsh <isplists@...>
Date: 18 Jan 2003 11:58:58 -0800
X-Message-Number: 8

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 10:24, Mister.Net wrote:
> If you are looking for a good domain registrar along with free hosting
(with
> no banners), I would like you to check out Mister.net http://Mister.net
>
> Sam

Well Ed, now you know one to avoid.....  :)

--
William Walsh <william@...
Jabber: william@...



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Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
From: Allan Liska <allan@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:58:06 -0500
X-Message-Number: 9

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Hello Mister.Net,

Saturday, January 18, 2003, 1:24:27 PM, you wrote:

MN> If you are looking for a good domain registrar along with free hosting
(with
MN> no banners), I would like you to check out Mister.net http://Mister.net

Technically, Mister.Net is not a registrar, they are a reseller of
eNom:

   Domain Name: MISTER.NET
   Registrar: ENOM, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.enom.com
   Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
   Name Server: NS1.MISTER.NET
   Name Server: NS2.MISTER.NET
   Updated Date: 25-mar-2002

However, I do agree that eNom is an excellent registrar.

allan
- --
Allan Liska
allan@...
http://www.allan.org

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Subject: RE: Arghhh... Network Solutions
From: "isplist" <isplist@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:46:50 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10

I have used www.ultradns.com and have been very happy with it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Clarke [mailto:clarke@...> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:24 AM
> To: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
> Subject: [isp-dns] Arghhh... Network Solutions
>=20
>=20
> I need to move all of my domains to some registrar that is=20
> competent or
> almost competent.  As far as I can tell, Verisign/Network-Solutions is
> totally useless.  For example: last year I wanted to register=20
> three domains
> for three years each...  They've registered the first one for=20
> NINE YEARS
> and the other two for one year.
>=20
> Enough.  I'm not even going to try and fix it.  My original domain is
> running out ( registered with the individual forms rather than the WEB
> based thing they have now ) and these idiots can't even give me a way
> to update it!  My account number predates the web thing and won't work
> with it.
>=20
> Would the list (you) please email me a recommendation for a=20
> replacement=20
> for Network Solutions and I will summarize the responses to the list?
> Please don't be funny, I know they could be replaced by a=20
> retarded chimp
> but I'm looking for a domain registrar.  I'd like one that will let me
> fill out forms AND reach a human if there's a problem.
>=20
> Thanks -
>=20
> Ed Clarke
> clarke@...
>=20