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[isp-dns] RE: isp-dns digest: January 18, 2003
We use Enom,
The price is good and you can push clients domains to their own personal
interface and can use the dns servers free.
Please contact me if you have any questions or comments
Mark Brown
Mark@...
Triple8 Network
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Devine, II [mailto:william@...> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:34 AM
> To: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
> Subject: [isp-dns] RE: isp-dns digest: January 18, 2003
>
>
> My preference is DirectNic, it is $15/yr (more than openSRS, but
> I love the
> interface, able to do mass changes, and I manage tons of domains
> for clients
> through it.)
> For $5/yr, they'll also do DNS for you that your clients can manage
> themselves.
>
> william
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ISP-DNS Discussion List digest
> [mailto:isp-dns@...> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 02:00 AM
> To: isp-dns digest recipients
> Subject: isp-dns digest: January 18, 2003
>
>
> ISP-DNS Digest for Saturday, January 18, 2003.
>
> 1. Re: control of reverse dns
> 2. Re: control of reverse dns
> 3. Arghhh... Network Solutions
> 4. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> 5. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> 6. RE: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> 7. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> 8. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> 9. Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> 10. RE: Arghhh... Network Solutions
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: control of reverse dns
> From: "Frederik Wille" <frederik.wille@....be>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:23:02 +0100
> X-Message-Number: 1
>
> Ask your provider to create a CNAME for your reverse addresses. Like that,
> they keep control and you have what you want.
> A CNAMe must be created fot every IP adress in tour range that you want to
> manage and has to point tot your name servers.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> fred
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: R. Scott Perry [mailto:horizons@...> Verzonden: zaterdag 18 januari 2003 3:19
> Aan: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
> Onderwerp: [isp-dns] Re: control of reverse dns
>
>
>
> >I would really like to be able to control the reverse lookups for my
> >addresses, but my upstream provider won't let me. This is what
> I received
> >in response to me asking them if I could be the authoritative IN-ADDR DNS
> >server for the addresses they gave me.
>
> Then that is what you are stuck with, unfortunately.
>
> >## It is our policy [not to let customers be the authoritative IN-ADDR
> >## DNS server for the addresses we assign to them]. <my upstream
> >## provider> owns the address space and will not give someone else
> >## the ownership of the address space. The reverse can be changed
> >## but would need to be changed by <my upstream provider>.
> >
> >Is the barrier technical, administrative, or political?
>
> It is administrative/political. They have the ability to delegate
> authority to you, but choose not to.
>
> >The smallest allotment of addresses that ARIN doles out is a
> /20. There is
> >no way that I can justify needing that many addresses at this point.
>
> Even if you get IP addresses directly from have ARIN, you need
> some way for
> those IPs to be routed to you -- so you'll need to switch Internet
> providers anyways (if your current provider won't let you be authoritative
> for your reverse DNS, it is unlikely that they will allow you to
> route your
> own IPs through them.
>
> >ARIN's solution according to their website is for me to get
> addresses from
> my
> >upstream provider. It doesn't seem fair that I wouldn't be able
> to control
> >the reverse lookups for those addresses. Please let me know if there is
> >anything I can do to make this possible. Is my upstream provider
> >misbehaving or is this standard behavior? If they are
> misbehaving is there
> >someone that I can file a complaint with (ARIN?)?
>
> Those IPs "belong" to your Internet provider. They can choose what to do
> with them. In this case, they are not allowing their customers to have
> control over the reverse DNS (for example, many dialup and home DSL/cable
> ISPs do not allow their customers to control the reverse DNS).
>
> In this case, your options appear to be:
>
> [1] Let your ISP handle the reverse DNS. Reverse DNS entries rarely need
> to be changed, so for most people, this would be satisfactory.
> [2] Switch ISPs
>
> -Scott
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: control of reverse dns
> From: "Dave" <dave@...>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:57:55 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> as follows:
>
> 50 IN CNAME 50.9.99.999.in-addr.domain.net.
> 51 IN CNAME 51.9.99.999.in-addr.domain.net.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frederik Wille" <frederik.wille@....be>
> To: <isp-dns@isp-dns.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:23 AM
> Subject: [isp-dns] Re: control of reverse dns
>
>
> > Ask your provider to create a CNAME for your reverse addresses.
> Like that,
> > they keep control and you have what you want.
> > A CNAMe must be created fot every IP adress in tour range that
> you want to
> > manage and has to point tot your name servers.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > fred
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: R. Scott Perry [mailto:horizons@...> > Verzonden: zaterdag 18 januari 2003 3:19
> > Aan: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
> > Onderwerp: [isp-dns] Re: control of reverse dns
> >
> >
> >
> > >I would really like to be able to control the reverse lookups for my
> > >addresses, but my upstream provider won't let me. This is what I
> received
> > >in response to me asking them if I could be the authoritative
> IN-ADDR DNS
> > >server for the addresses they gave me.
> >
> > Then that is what you are stuck with, unfortunately.
> >
> > >## It is our policy [not to let customers be the authoritative IN-ADDR
> > >## DNS server for the addresses we assign to them]. <my upstream
> > >## provider> owns the address space and will not give someone else
> > >## the ownership of the address space. The reverse can be changed
> > >## but would need to be changed by <my upstream provider>.
> > >
> > >Is the barrier technical, administrative, or political?
> >
> > It is administrative/political. They have the ability to delegate
> > authority to you, but choose not to.
> >
> > >The smallest allotment of addresses that ARIN doles out is a
> /20. There
> is
> > >no way that I can justify needing that many addresses at this point.
> >
> > Even if you get IP addresses directly from have ARIN, you need some way
> for
> > those IPs to be routed to you -- so you'll need to switch Internet
> > providers anyways (if your current provider won't let you be
> authoritative
> > for your reverse DNS, it is unlikely that they will allow you to route
> your
> > own IPs through them.
> >
> > >ARIN's solution according to their website is for me to get addresses
> from
> > my
> > >upstream provider. It doesn't seem fair that I wouldn't be able to
> control
> > >the reverse lookups for those addresses. Please let me know
> if there is
> > >anything I can do to make this possible. Is my upstream provider
> > >misbehaving or is this standard behavior? If they are misbehaving is
> there
> > >someone that I can file a complaint with (ARIN?)?
> >
> > Those IPs "belong" to your Internet provider. They can choose
> what to do
> > with them. In this case, they are not allowing their customers to have
> > control over the reverse DNS (for example, many dialup and home
> DSL/cable
> > ISPs do not allow their customers to control the reverse DNS).
> >
> > In this case, your options appear to be:
> >
> > [1] Let your ISP handle the reverse DNS. Reverse DNS entries
> rarely need
> > to be changed, so for most people, this would be satisfactory.
> > [2] Switch ISPs
> >
> > -Scott
> > ---
> > Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers.
> > Declude Virus: Catches both viruses and vulnerabilities in
> E-mail, with no
> > annual licensing fees.
> >
> > ---
> > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus
> > (http://www.declude.com)]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> From: Ed Clarke <clarke@...>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:24:18 -0500 (EST)
> X-Message-Number: 3
>
> I need to move all of my domains to some registrar that is competent or
> almost competent. As far as I can tell, Verisign/Network-Solutions is
> totally useless. For example: last year I wanted to register
> three domains
> for three years each... They've registered the first one for NINE YEARS
> and the other two for one year.
>
> Enough. I'm not even going to try and fix it. My original domain is
> running out ( registered with the individual forms rather than the WEB
> based thing they have now ) and these idiots can't even give me a way
> to update it! My account number predates the web thing and won't work
> with it.
>
> Would the list (you) please email me a recommendation for a replacement
> for Network Solutions and I will summarize the responses to the list?
> Please don't be funny, I know they could be replaced by a retarded chimp
> but I'm looking for a domain registrar. I'd like one that will let me
> fill out forms AND reach a human if there's a problem.
>
> Thanks -
>
> Ed Clarke
> clarke@...
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> From: "Andrew P. Kaplan" <noc@...>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:50:27 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 4
>
> >>I'd like one that will let me fill out forms AND reach a human
> if there's
> a problem.
>
> tucows, tucows, tucows.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> From: "Ahmad Masood" <jahil@...>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:52:47 +0500
> X-Message-Number: 5
>
> How can I make mirror with tucows with my own server here in Pakistan.
>
>
> Best Regs,
> Masood Ahmad Shah
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew P. Kaplan" <noc@...>
> To: <isp-dns@isp-dns.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:50 PM
> Subject: [isp-dns] Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
>
>
> > >>I'd like one that will let me fill out forms AND reach a human if
> there's
> > a problem.
> >
> > tucows, tucows, tucows.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> From: "Mike Tindall" <lists@...>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:19:22 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 6
>
>
> I agree with the motions for Tucows.
>
> Mike
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Clarke [mailto:clarke@...> > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:24 AM
> > To: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
> > Subject: [isp-dns] Arghhh... Network Solutions
> >
> >
> > I need to move all of my domains to some registrar that is
> > competent or almost competent. As far as I can tell,
> > Verisign/Network-Solutions is totally useless. For example:
> > last year I wanted to register three domains for three years
> > each... They've registered the first one for NINE YEARS and
> > the other two for one year.
> >
> > Enough. I'm not even going to try and fix it. My original
> > domain is running out ( registered with the individual forms
> > rather than the WEB based thing they have now ) and these
> > idiots can't even give me a way to update it! My account
> > number predates the web thing and won't work with it.
> >
> > Would the list (you) please email me a recommendation for a
> > replacement
> > for Network Solutions and I will summarize the responses to
> > the list? Please don't be funny, I know they could be
> > replaced by a retarded chimp but I'm looking for a domain
> > registrar. I'd like one that will let me fill out forms AND
> > reach a human if there's a problem.
> >
> > Thanks -
> >
> > Ed Clarke
> > clarke@...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> From: "Mister.Net" <mister@...>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:24:27 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 7
>
> If you are looking for a good domain registrar along with free hosting (w=
> ith
> no banners), I would like you to check out Mister.net http://Mister.net
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Clarke" <clarke@...>
> To: <isp-dns@isp-dns.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:24 AM
> Subject: [isp-dns] Arghhh... Network Solutions
>
>
> > I need to move all of my domains to some registrar that is competent or
> > almost competent. As far as I can tell, Verisign/Network-Solutions is
> > totally useless. For example: last year I wanted to register three
> domains
> > for three years each... They've registered the first one for NINE YEAR=
> S
> > and the other two for one year.
> >
> > Enough. I'm not even going to try and fix it. My original domain is
> > running out ( registered with the individual forms rather than the WEB
> > based thing they have now ) and these idiots can't even give me a way
> > to update it! My account number predates the web thing and won't work
> > with it.
> >
> > Would the list (you) please email me a recommendation for a replacement
> > for Network Solutions and I will summarize the responses to the list?
> > Please don't be funny, I know they could be replaced by a retarded chim=
> p
> > but I'm looking for a domain registrar. I'd like one that will let me
> > fill out forms AND reach a human if there's a problem.
> >
> > Thanks -
> >
> > Ed Clarke
> > clarke@...
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> From: William X Walsh <isplists@...>
> Date: 18 Jan 2003 11:58:58 -0800
> X-Message-Number: 8
>
> On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 10:24, Mister.Net wrote:
> > If you are looking for a good domain registrar along with free hosting
> (with
> > no banners), I would like you to check out Mister.net http://Mister.net
> >
> > Sam
>
> Well Ed, now you know one to avoid..... :)
>
> --
> William Walsh <william@...
> Jabber: william@...
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> From: Allan Liska <allan@...>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:58:06 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 9
>
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> Hello Mister.Net,
>
> Saturday, January 18, 2003, 1:24:27 PM, you wrote:
>
> MN> If you are looking for a good domain registrar along with free hosting
> (with
> MN> no banners), I would like you to check out Mister.net
> http://Mister.net
>
> Technically, Mister.Net is not a registrar, they are a reseller of
> eNom:
>
> Domain Name: MISTER.NET
> Registrar: ENOM, INC.
> Whois Server: whois.enom.com
> Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
> Name Server: NS1.MISTER.NET
> Name Server: NS2.MISTER.NET
> Updated Date: 25-mar-2002
>
> However, I do agree that eNom is an excellent registrar.
>
> allan
> - --
> Allan Liska
> allan@...
> http://www.allan.org
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: Arghhh... Network Solutions
> From: "isplist" <isplist@...>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:46:50 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 10
>
> I have used www.ultradns.com and have been very happy with it.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Clarke [mailto:clarke@...> > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:24 AM
> > To: isp-dns@isp-dns.com
> > Subject: [isp-dns] Arghhh... Network Solutions
> >=20
> >=20
> > I need to move all of my domains to some registrar that is=20
> > competent or
> > almost competent. As far as I can tell, Verisign/Network-Solutions is
> > totally useless. For example: last year I wanted to register=20
> > three domains
> > for three years each... They've registered the first one for=20
> > NINE YEARS
> > and the other two for one year.
> >=20
> > Enough. I'm not even going to try and fix it. My original domain is
> > running out ( registered with the individual forms rather than the WEB
> > based thing they have now ) and these idiots can't even give me a way
> > to update it! My account number predates the web thing and won't work
> > with it.
> >=20
> > Would the list (you) please email me a recommendation for a=20
> > replacement=20
> > for Network Solutions and I will summarize the responses to the list?
> > Please don't be funny, I know they could be replaced by a=20
> > retarded chimp
> > but I'm looking for a domain registrar. I'd like one that will let me
> > fill out forms AND reach a human if there's a problem.
> >=20
> > Thanks -
> >=20
> > Ed Clarke
> > clarke@...
> >=20
> >=20
>
>
>
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>
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