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Re: Broadband Power Line Carrier--what is it?
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That's where i am at, albeit a few steps behind.
The legal issue is what im worried about. Most
powerCo's use public right of way's and that should
give us some rights(yea right)

Jeromie Reeves


At 11:02 AM 8/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Right now a few small Wireless ISP's are doing this in a neighborhood
setting from one of their wireless subs within the limitation of not going
past the transformer.
I myself am getting ready to deploy powerline in those situations that I can
take advantage of the technology. The cost of a client end powerline device
is under 80.00. The manufacturers who are shipping  home plug gear is
Linksys and Netgear.
I have myself a couple units running in a private setting and am looking for
long term performance issues.
Granted this isn't on the scale of what Clecs want to do but it is the
grassroots of Powerline technology.
The problem I have is the legality of running our system over the power
company with out paying them money to use their infrastructure.
But this is the beginning of the powerline revolution that has the ability
to add additional broadband competition or allow the power companies to be
an additional infrastructure monopolistic competitor.
Just some thoughts to ponder
George



Blazing Speed ! No wires to slow us down ! Go Wireless !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sage" <buyer@....org>
To: <isp-clec@isp-clec.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:18 AM
Subject: Fw: Broadband Power Line Carrier--what is it?


>
>
>  I think lack of security relates to running signals over widely visable,
>  radiating copper wires.
>
>  If you can go anywhere along a highline and point an antenna at it and
pick
>  up 100 megs of data transmissions.... that is a fertile ground for data
>  trolling.
>
>  That problem would not apply to fiberoptics running inside the power
cable
>  for long distance transmissions, where the fiber is just running with the
>  copper.
>
>  Cary Fitch
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Jeromie Reeves" <jreeves@...>
>  To: <isp-clec@isp-clec.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:46 AM
>  Subject: Re: Broadband Power Line Carrier--what is it?
>
>
>  > Ok, gimmie there sales department. Any information on how/why they were
>  not
>  > secure??
>  > interference will always be a problem, its a matter of finding a way to
>  > microcell the power grid.
>  > Already plan to test a few idea's with the HomePlug stuff. Broadband
>  > router----eth bridge---grid,
>  > with <at least> 5 people were trans here, that's no problem. One
customer
>  > gets a wireless setup
>  > to my wpop and will distribute to the power grid. This IS all in the
>  future
>  > for testing, Just my idea of
>  > how to do it.
>  >
>  > Jeromie Reeves
>  >
>  > PS: Ever forget to hit send before leaving the office....
>  >
>  > At 11:16 PM 8/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>  > >Nortel had a joint venture with a British utility company called
Norweb.
>  > >They eventually closed the joint venture and sold it to a startup. The
>  > >circuits were not secure and interference was also a problem.
>  > >
>  > >- R.
>  > >
>  > >Jeromie Reeves wrote:
>  > >
>  > >>Nor the fact that they do not have any hardware.
>  > >>I do belive when i said "Doesn't seam to be much out there that is US
>  FCC
>  > >>certified."
>  > >>I meant i can buy it, Install it, Collect the bill. I am not after
>  > >>"Pie-in-the-Sky"
>  > >>
> > > >>Amperion also has no shipping hardware. Very much a R&D effort.(At
> least
>  > >>thats what the
> > > >>sale's pich says to me, maybe i read to much into a web site that
says
> > > >>give me money, i
> > > >>have nothing to sell but i might next year)
> > > >>
> > > >>Jeromie Reeves
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>At 05:34 PM 8/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>The Infoworld article is superficial. Absolutely no mention of the
> fact
> > > >>>that the architecture of the American power grid undermines the
> > economics.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Link Shadley wrote:
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
>
>>>>http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/01/07/020107hnpowerline.xml
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>http://www.amperion.com/about.asp
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Link Shadley
> > > >>>>PO Box 976
> > > >>>>Astoria, OR 97103
> > > >>>>State phone: 503.986.0046
> > > >>>>Home Office: 503.224.2102
> > > >>>>Home FAX: 503.224.2103
> > > >>>>Cell: 503.338.9633
> > > >>>>lshadley@...
> > > >>>>link.shadley@state.or.us
> > > >>>>link@...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>From: Jeromie Reeves [mailto:jreeves@...> August
> > > >>>>06, 2002 1:30 PM
> > > >>>>To: isp-clec@isp-clec.com
> > > >>>>Subject: Re: Broadband Power Line Carrier--what is it?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>I have been looking for some hardware to use for this. Doesn't
seam
> to
> > > >>>>be much out there that is US FCC
> > > >>>>certified.
> > > >>>>




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