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Thread Index [isp-caching] RE: interresting
Ryan, there was a recent ruling ( in the past 2 years in the USA ) where ISP are not held liable for cache content. This falls along the rules of common carrier. Windows ASP .NET Cold Fusion Web Hosting Services http://www.adehost.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ryan Gallagher [mailto:r_y_e@...> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:16 PM > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > > > Hi, > > Where does a provider stand legally by caching sometimes > 'illegal' P2P content? I know there are certain issues with > caching streams in Europe in certain countries. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Kind Regards, > Ryan Gallagher. > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Ahmad Masood Shah"<jahil@...> > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com > Date: Thu Jul 10 06:34:05 PDT 2003 > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > > >it's okk just let me know.. > > > >-- > > > >Best Regs, > >Masood Ahmad Shah > >System Administrator > > > >^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > >| * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >| Fibre Net (Pvt) Ltd. Lahore, Pakistan > >| Tel: +92-42-6677024 > >| Mobile: +92-300-4277367 > >| http://www.fibre.net.pk > >| * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > >Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. > >(Dennis Ritchie) > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bernd Vetter" <bvetter@...> > >To: <isp-caching@isp-caching.com> > >Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:53 PM > >Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > > > > > >| How about a link? > >| > >| Thanks > >| Bernardo > >| > >| > -----Original Message----- > >| > From: Ranko Zivojnovic [mailto:ranko@...> >| > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:31 AM > >| > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com > >| > Cc: Ahmad Masood Shah > >| > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > >| > > >| > > >| > Tripleceptor is designed to work together with the Proxymus > >| > caching engine and comes together with it. If you are > >| > interested in the evaluation of the software, you are welcome > >| > and we can discuss this of the list. > >| > > >| > Best regards, > >| > > >| > Ranko > >| > > >| > > >| > > -----Original Message----- > >| > > From: Ahmad Masood Shah [mailto:jahil@...> >| > > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:18 PM > >| > > To: ISP-CACHING Discussion List > >| > > Cc: ranko@... > >| > > Subject: Re: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > >| > > > >| > > > >| > > nice information... please let me know from where i can download > >| > > Tripleceptor module. > >| > > > >| > > -- > >| > > > >| > > Best Regs, > >| > > Masood Ahmad Shah > >| > > System Administrator > >| > > > >| > > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > >| > > | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >| > > | Fibre Net (Pvt) Ltd. Lahore, Pakistan > >| > > | Tel: +92-42-6677024 > >| > > | Mobile: +92-300-4277367 > >| > > | http://www.fibre.net.pk > >| > > | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >| > > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > >| > > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the > >| > > simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) > >| > > > >| > > ----- Original Message ----- > >| > > From: "Ranko Zivojnovic" <ranko@...> > >| > > To: <isp-caching@isp-caching.com> > >| > > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:44 PM > >| > > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > >| > > > >| > > > >| > > | On the point of the redirecting the traffic to the > caching engine: > >| > > Proxymus > >| > > | does support WCCPv2 and any other port based redirection for > >| > > this purpose, > >| > > | but we strongly discourage customers from using it. > >| > > | > >| > > | We have proven that about 70% of all P2P traffic that > >| > traverses the > >| > > backbone > >| > > | is port-hopped, thus not redirected to the cache. This > >| > significantly > >| > > reduces > >| > > | the cache byte hit rate and for this reason we have developed the > >| > > | Tripleceptor which does, what we call, "context based > >| > redirection". > >| > > | With context based redirection an application can work on > >| > _any_ port > >| > > it likes, > >| > > | but it will end up being redirected to the cache. > >| > > | > >| > > | Best regards, > >| > > | > >| > > | Ranko > >| > > | > >| > > | > -----Original Message----- > >| > > | > From: Amos Rosenboim [mailto:r.amos@...> >| > > | > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:38 AM > >| > > | > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com > >| > > | > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > The first p2p cache that i know of was developed by expand > >| > > networks from > >| > > | > israel. > >| > > | > I have two of 3 of those in my network for fastrack ( Kazza ) > >| > > | > traffic. It used to be very effective when kazza was > >| > working on a > >| > > single tcp port > >| > > | > (1214). > >| > > | > now we need to do all kinds of layer 4 -7 tricks to get the > >| > > | > traffic to the cache. Every cache of mine deals with roughly > >| > > | > 100Mbits/sec. Expand networks stopped the development of their > >| > > | > product, > >| > > however, since > >| > > | > then there are new products like mushrooms. the examples i know > >| > > | > of: > >| > > | > > >| > > | > Joltid - the same people who are behind kazza, they have a very > >| > > | > nice product. > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > Sandvine - more complicated product then most of them but a > >| > > vey serious > >| > > | > compnay. > >| > > | > > >| > > | > Regards > >| > > | > Amos > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > -----Original Message----- > >| > > | > From: Moshe Konortov [mailto:moshek@...> >| > > | > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:28 AM > >| > > | > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com > >| > > | > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > >| > > | > > >| > > | > I'm doing it as a reseller for those product and also > >| > Expand doing > >| > > | > it > >| > > | > > >| > > | > Regards, > >| > > | > > >| > > | > Moshe Konortov > >| > > | > > >| > > | > -----Original Message----- > >| > > | > From: Mark Pace Balzan [mailto:mpb@...> >| > > | > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:28 AM > >| > > | > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com > >| > > | > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > Has anyone been using/testing these products > >| > > | > > >| > > | > care to comment about their performance and effectiveness. > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > cheers > >| > > | > > >| > > | > Mark > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > >| > > | > From: "Moshe Konortov" <moshek@ankor.co.il> > >| > > | > To: <isp-caching@isp-caching.com> > >| > > | > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:39 AM > >| > > | > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Hi, > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Yes there are, > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Sandvine - at www.sandvine.com and cachelogic at > >| > > | > > www.cachelogic.com They doing Edonkey and Fastrack > >| > and Gnutella. > >| > > | > > Sandvine is not a caching system, its idea is to catch the > >| > > p2p traffic > >| > > | > > and redirect it to low cost lines > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Regards, > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Moshe Konortov > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > -----Original Message----- > >| > > | > > From: Pablo A. Destefanis (Ecoband) > [mailto:pablo@...> >| > > | > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:49 AM > >| > > | > > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com > >| > > | > > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Interesting indeed! Is anyone using any caching > >| > engine to catch > >| > > | > > P2P traffic? Are there other products out there? > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Best, > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Pablo. > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > -----Original Message----- > >| > > | > > From: Ranko Zivojnovic [mailto:ranko@...> >| > > | > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 01:47 > >| > > | > > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com > >| > > | > > Cc: thomas@... > >| > > | > > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > I believe that you will find the following very > >| > interesting too: > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > http://proxymus.spidernet.net > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Regards, > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Ranko > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > -----Original Message----- > >| > > | > > > From: Thomas Kirk [mailto:thomas@...> >| > > | > > > Sent: 03 July 2003 12:58 > >| > > | > > > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com > >| > > | > > > Subject: [isp-caching] interresting > >| > > | > > > > >| > > | > > > > >| > > | > > > http://theregister.co.uk/content/6/31532.html > >| > > | > > > > >| > > | > > > -- > >| > > | > > > Venlig hilsen/Kind regards > >| > > | > > > Thomas Kirk > >| > > | > > > ARKENA > >| > > | > > > tlf/phone +4570233456 > >| > > | > > > thomas(at)arkena(dot)com > >| > > | > > > Http://www.arkena.com > >| > > | > > > > >| > > | > > > > >| > > | > > > "OK, son. Just remember to have fun out there today, and if > >| > > | > > > you > >| > > | > lose, > >| > > | > > > I'LL KILL YOU!" -- Homer Simpson > >| > > | > > > > >| > > | > > > > >| > > | > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT------------------------------ > >| > > | > --- > >| > > | > > > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > > ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| > > | > > > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP > >| > business plans. > >| > > | > > > Wireless network certifications. High-gain > >| > antenna design. > >| > > | > > > Site survey techniques. > >| > > | > > > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| > > | > > > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| > > | > > > > >| > > | > > > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > > > ___________ > >| > > | > > > Archives: > >| > > | > > > http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-caching/archives/ > >| > > | > > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > >| > > | > > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| > > | > > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP > business plans. > >| > > | > > Wireless network certifications. High-gain > >| > antenna design. > >| > > | > > Site survey techniques. > >| > > | > > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| > > | > > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > Archives: > >| > http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-caching/archives/ > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > >| > > | > > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| > > | > > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP > business plans. > >| > > | > > Wireless network certifications. High-gain > >| > antenna design. > >| > > | > > Site survey techniques. > >| > > | > > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| > > | > > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > ____________ > >| > > | > > ___________ > >| > > | > > Archives: > >| > http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-caching/archives/ > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > >| > > | > > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| > > | > > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP > business plans. > >| > > | > > Wireless network certifications. High-gain > >| > antenna design. > >| > > | > > Site survey techniques. > >| > > | > > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| > > | > > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > ____________ > >| > > | > ___________ > >| > > | > > Archives: > >| > http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-caching/archives/ > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > >| > > | > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| > > | > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. > >| > > | > Wireless network certifications. High-gain > antenna design. > >| > > | > Site survey techniques. > >| > > | > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| > > | > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| > > | > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > >| > > | > ____________ > >| > > | > ___________ > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > >| > > | > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| > > | > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. > >| > > | > Wireless network certifications. High-gain > antenna design. > >| > > | > Site survey techniques. > >| > > | > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| > > | > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| > > | > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > >| > > | > ____________ > >| > > | > ___________ > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > >| > > | > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| > > | > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. > >| > > | > Wireless network certifications. High-gain > antenna design. > >| > > | > Site survey techniques. > >| > > | > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| > > | > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| > > | > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > >| > > | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| > > | The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. > >| > > | Wireless network certifications. High-gain antenna design. > >| > > | Site survey techniques. > >| > > | June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| > > | http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| > > | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > > >| > > > >| > > >| > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. > >| > Wireless network certifications. High-gain antenna design. > >| > Site survey techniques. > >| > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > > >| > > >| > >| > >| ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > >| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| ** 802.11 Planet ** > >| The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. > >| Wireless network certifications. High-gain antenna design. > >| Site survey techniques. > >| June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > >| http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > >| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > >| > >| > > > > > >------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > > ** 802.11 Planet ** > > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. > > Wireless network certifications. High-gain antenna design. > > Site survey techniques. > > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA > > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > GO.com Mail > Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com > > > > >
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