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Thread Index [isp-caching] RE: interresting
Hi, Where does a provider stand legally by caching sometimes 'illegal' P2P content? I know there are certain issues with caching streams in Europe in certain countries. Anyone have any ideas? Kind Regards, Ryan Gallagher. -----Original Message----- From: "Ahmad Masood Shah"<jahil@...> To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com Date: Thu Jul 10 06:34:05 PDT 2003 Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >it's okk just let me know.. > >-- > >Best Regs, >Masood Ahmad Shah >System Administrator > >^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ >| * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >| Fibre Net (Pvt) Ltd. Lahore, Pakistan >| Tel: +92-42-6677024 >| Mobile: +92-300-4277367 >| http://www.fibre.net.pk >| * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ >Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. >(Dennis Ritchie) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bernd Vetter" <bvetter@...> >To: <isp-caching@isp-caching.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:53 PM >Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting > > >| How about a link? >| >| Thanks >| Bernardo >| >| > -----Original Message----- >| > From: Ranko Zivojnovic [mailto:ranko@...>| > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:31 AM >| > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com >| > Cc: Ahmad Masood Shah >| > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >| > >| > >| > Tripleceptor is designed to work together with the Proxymus >| > caching engine and comes together with it. If you are >| > interested in the evaluation of the software, you are welcome >| > and we can discuss this of the list. >| > >| > Best regards, >| > >| > Ranko >| > >| > >| > > -----Original Message----- >| > > From: Ahmad Masood Shah [mailto:jahil@...>| > > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:18 PM >| > > To: ISP-CACHING Discussion List >| > > Cc: ranko@... >| > > Subject: Re: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >| > > >| > > >| > > nice information... please let me know from where i can download >| > > Tripleceptor module. >| > > >| > > -- >| > > >| > > Best Regs, >| > > Masood Ahmad Shah >| > > System Administrator >| > > >| > > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ >| > > | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >| > > | Fibre Net (Pvt) Ltd. Lahore, Pakistan >| > > | Tel: +92-42-6677024 >| > > | Mobile: +92-300-4277367 >| > > | http://www.fibre.net.pk >| > > | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >| > > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ >| > > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the >| > > simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) >| > > >| > > ----- Original Message ----- >| > > From: "Ranko Zivojnovic" <ranko@...> >| > > To: <isp-caching@isp-caching.com> >| > > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:44 PM >| > > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >| > > >| > > >| > > | On the point of the redirecting the traffic to the caching engine: >| > > Proxymus >| > > | does support WCCPv2 and any other port based redirection for >| > > this purpose, >| > > | but we strongly discourage customers from using it. >| > > | >| > > | We have proven that about 70% of all P2P traffic that >| > traverses the >| > > backbone >| > > | is port-hopped, thus not redirected to the cache. This >| > significantly >| > > reduces >| > > | the cache byte hit rate and for this reason we have developed the >| > > | Tripleceptor which does, what we call, "context based >| > redirection". >| > > | With context based redirection an application can work on >| > _any_ port >| > > it likes, >| > > | but it will end up being redirected to the cache. >| > > | >| > > | Best regards, >| > > | >| > > | Ranko >| > > | >| > > | > -----Original Message----- >| > > | > From: Amos Rosenboim [mailto:r.amos@...>| > > | > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:38 AM >| > > | > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com >| > > | > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | > The first p2p cache that i know of was developed by expand >| > > networks from >| > > | > israel. >| > > | > I have two of 3 of those in my network for fastrack ( Kazza ) >| > > | > traffic. It used to be very effective when kazza was >| > working on a >| > > single tcp port >| > > | > (1214). >| > > | > now we need to do all kinds of layer 4 -7 tricks to get the >| > > | > traffic to the cache. Every cache of mine deals with roughly >| > > | > 100Mbits/sec. Expand networks stopped the development of their >| > > | > product, >| > > however, since >| > > | > then there are new products like mushrooms. the examples i know >| > > | > of: >| > > | > >| > > | > Joltid - the same people who are behind kazza, they have a very >| > > | > nice product. >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | > Sandvine - more complicated product then most of them but a >| > > vey serious >| > > | > compnay. >| > > | > >| > > | > Regards >| > > | > Amos >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | > -----Original Message----- >| > > | > From: Moshe Konortov [mailto:moshek@...>| > > | > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:28 AM >| > > | > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com >| > > | > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >| > > | > >| > > | > I'm doing it as a reseller for those product and also >| > Expand doing >| > > | > it >| > > | > >| > > | > Regards, >| > > | > >| > > | > Moshe Konortov >| > > | > >| > > | > -----Original Message----- >| > > | > From: Mark Pace Balzan [mailto:mpb@...>| > > | > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:28 AM >| > > | > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com >| > > | > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | > Has anyone been using/testing these products >| > > | > >| > > | > care to comment about their performance and effectiveness. >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | > cheers >| > > | > >| > > | > Mark >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | > ----- Original Message ----- >| > > | > From: "Moshe Konortov" <moshek@ankor.co.il> >| > > | > To: <isp-caching@isp-caching.com> >| > > | > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:39 AM >| > > | > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | > > Hi, >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Yes there are, >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Sandvine - at www.sandvine.com and cachelogic at >| > > | > > www.cachelogic.com They doing Edonkey and Fastrack >| > and Gnutella. >| > > | > > Sandvine is not a caching system, its idea is to catch the >| > > p2p traffic >| > > | > > and redirect it to low cost lines >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Regards, >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Moshe Konortov >| > > | > > >| > > | > > -----Original Message----- >| > > | > > From: Pablo A. Destefanis (Ecoband) [mailto:pablo@...>| > > | > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:49 AM >| > > | > > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com >| > > | > > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Interesting indeed! Is anyone using any caching >| > engine to catch >| > > | > > P2P traffic? Are there other products out there? >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Best, >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Pablo. >| > > | > > >| > > | > > -----Original Message----- >| > > | > > From: Ranko Zivojnovic [mailto:ranko@...>| > > | > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 01:47 >| > > | > > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com >| > > | > > Cc: thomas@... >| > > | > > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > I believe that you will find the following very >| > interesting too: >| > > | > > >| > > | > > http://proxymus.spidernet.net >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Regards, >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Ranko >| > > | > > >| > > | > > > -----Original Message----- >| > > | > > > From: Thomas Kirk [mailto:thomas@...>| > > | > > > Sent: 03 July 2003 12:58 >| > > | > > > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com >| > > | > > > Subject: [isp-caching] interresting >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > http://theregister.co.uk/content/6/31532.html >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > -- >| > > | > > > Venlig hilsen/Kind regards >| > > | > > > Thomas Kirk >| > > | > > > ARKENA >| > > | > > > tlf/phone +4570233456 >| > > | > > > thomas(at)arkena(dot)com >| > > | > > > Http://www.arkena.com >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > "OK, son. Just remember to have fun out there today, and if >| > > | > > > you >| > > | > lose, >| > > | > > > I'LL KILL YOU!" -- Homer Simpson >| > > | > > > >| > > | > > > >| > > | > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT------------------------------ >| > > | > --- >| > > | > > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > > > ** 802.11 Planet ** >| > > | > > > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP >| > business plans. >| > > | > > > Wireless network certifications. 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High-gain >| > antenna design. >| > > | > > Site survey techniques. >| > > | > > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA >| > > | > > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 >| > > | > > >| > > | > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > > >| > > | > > Archives: >| > http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-caching/archives/ >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- >| > > | > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > > ** 802.11 Planet ** >| > > | > > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. >| > > | > > Wireless network certifications. High-gain >| > antenna design. >| > > | > > Site survey techniques. >| > > | > > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA >| > > | > > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 >| > > | > > >| > > | > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > > >| > > | > > ____________ >| > > | > > ___________ >| > > | > > Archives: >| > http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-caching/archives/ >| > > | > > >| > > | > > >| > > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- >| > > | > > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > > ** 802.11 Planet ** >| > > | > > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. >| > > | > > Wireless network certifications. High-gain >| > antenna design. >| > > | > > Site survey techniques. >| > > | > > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA >| > > | > > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 >| > > | > > >| > > | > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > > >| > > | > > ____________ >| > > | > ___________ >| > > | > > Archives: >| > http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-caching/archives/ >| > > | > > >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- >| > > | > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > ** 802.11 Planet ** >| > > | > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. >| > > | > Wireless network certifications. High-gain antenna design. >| > > | > Site survey techniques. >| > > | > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA >| > > | > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 >| > > | > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > >| > > | > ____________ >| > > | > ___________ >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- >| > > | > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > ** 802.11 Planet ** >| > > | > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. >| > > | > Wireless network certifications. High-gain antenna design. >| > > | > Site survey techniques. >| > > | > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA >| > > | > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 >| > > | > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > >| > > | > ____________ >| > > | > ___________ >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- >| > > | > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > ** 802.11 Planet ** >| > > | > The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. >| > > | > Wireless network certifications. High-gain antenna design. >| > > | > Site survey techniques. >| > > | > June 25 - 27, Boston, MA >| > > | > http://www.jupiterevents.com//80211/spring03 >| > > | > >| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | > >| > > | > >| > > | >| > > | >| > > | >| > ------------------------ANNOUNCEMENT--------------------------------- >| > > | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >| > > | ** 802.11 Planet ** >| > > | The business of hot spots. Wireless ISP business plans. >| > > | Wireless network certifications. 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