My own two cents:

P2p is one of the great things that happened in the internet.
It really follows the model of a great open public network.
I don't want to limit or shape my users traffic because I believe they
are entiteled to do what ever they want with the bandwidth they are
paying for.
But since p2p is challanging my network I will do any effort to improve
my users experience using caching/redirection like the solutions from
expand/joltid/sandvine

Regards
Amos


-----Original Message-----
From: patrick deroudilhe [mailto:pderoudi@...Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:32 PM
To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting

Question was :

> Interesting indeed! Is anyone using any caching
engine to catch P2P traffic? Are there other products
out there?

You can also use Traffic shappers to control P2P
bandwidth allocation (I aggree it is different
approach).
www.allot.com is doing nice P2P
(KazaaV2-Gnutella)application recognition (signature)
and shapping up to 1Gbps throughput. They also propose
Transparent Cache Redirection option. 

Regards
Patrick
--- "Pablo A. Destefanis (Ecoband)"
<pablo@...> wrote:
> Thank you Amos and everyone. 
> 
> BTW, there's a pretty good white paper on caching
> P2P traffic that was
> written by Nathaniel Leibowitz, Aviv Bergman and
> others based on some
> very detailed tests they did with Amos (I think so,
> am I right?).
> 
> Very informative.
> (http://2002.iwcw.org/papers/18500253.pdf)
> 
> Does anyone ever tried to use iptables to do the L4
> switching on a
> multihomed Linux box? I don't have the budget for an
> Alteon box... ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Pablo.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amos Rosenboim [mailto:r.amos@...> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 08:38
> To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
> Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting
> 
> 
> The first p2p cache that i know of was developed by
> expand networks from
> israel. I have two of 3 of those in my network for
> fastrack ( Kazza )
> traffic. It used to be very effective when kazza was
> working on a single
> tcp port (1214). now we need to do all kinds of
> layer 4 -7 tricks to get
> the traffic to the cache. Every cache of mine deals
> with roughly
> 100Mbits/sec. Expand networks stopped the
> development of their product,
> however, since then there are new products like
> mushrooms. the examples
> i know of:
> 
> Joltid - the same people who are behind kazza, they
> have a very nice
> product.
> 
> 
> Sandvine - more complicated product then most of
> them but a vey serious
> compnay.
> 
> Regards
> Amos
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Moshe Konortov [mailto:moshek@...> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:28 AM
> To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
> Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting
> 
> I'm doing it as a reseller for those product and
> also Expand doing it
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Moshe Konortov
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Pace Balzan [mailto:mpb@...> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:28 AM
> To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
> Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting
> 
> 
> Has anyone been using/testing these products
> 
> care to comment about their performance and
> effectiveness.
> 
> 
> cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Moshe Konortov" <moshek@ankor.co.il>
> To: <isp-caching@isp-caching.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:39 AM
> Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes there are,
> >
> > Sandvine - at www.sandvine.com and cachelogic at
> www.cachelogic.com 
> > They doing Edonkey and Fastrack and Gnutella.
> Sandvine is not a 
> > caching system, its idea is to catch the p2p
> traffic and redirect it 
> > to low cost lines
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Moshe Konortov
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pablo A. Destefanis (Ecoband)
> [mailto:pablo@...> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:49 AM
> > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
> > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting
> >
> > Interesting indeed! Is anyone using any caching
> engine to catch P2P 
> > traffic? Are there other products out there?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Pablo.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ranko Zivojnovic
> [mailto:ranko@...> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 01:47
> > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
> > Cc: thomas@...
> > Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting
> >
> >
> > I believe that you will find the following very
> interesting too:
> >
> > http://proxymus.spidernet.net
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ranko
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thomas Kirk [mailto:thomas@...> > > Sent: 03 July 2003 12:58
> > > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
> > > Subject: [isp-caching] interresting
> > >
> > >
> > > http://theregister.co.uk/content/6/31532.html
> > >
> > > --
> > > Venlig hilsen/Kind regards
> > > Thomas Kirk
> > > ARKENA
> > > tlf/phone +4570233456
> > > thomas(at)arkena(dot)com
> > > Http://www.arkena.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "OK, son. Just remember to have fun out there
> today, and if you
> lose,
> > > I'LL KILL YOU!" -- Homer Simpson
> > >
> > >
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