Pablo,
Yes you are right. 
Those guys are the development team for expand networks, they did hell
of a good job.

We were a beta site for them and I gave them some inputs from the isp
point of view.


Amos


-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo A. Destefanis (Ecoband) [mailto:pablo@...Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:50 AM
To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting

Thank you Amos and everyone. 

BTW, there's a pretty good white paper on caching P2P traffic that was
written by Nathaniel Leibowitz, Aviv Bergman and others based on some
very detailed tests they did with Amos (I think so, am I right?).

Very informative. (http://2002.iwcw.org/papers/18500253.pdf)

Does anyone ever tried to use iptables to do the L4 switching on a
multihomed Linux box? I don't have the budget for an Alteon box... ;-)

Cheers,

Pablo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Amos Rosenboim [mailto:r.amos@...Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 08:38
To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting


The first p2p cache that i know of was developed by expand networks from
israel. I have two of 3 of those in my network for fastrack ( Kazza )
traffic. It used to be very effective when kazza was working on a single
tcp port (1214). now we need to do all kinds of layer 4 -7 tricks to get
the traffic to the cache. Every cache of mine deals with roughly
100Mbits/sec. Expand networks stopped the development of their product,
however, since then there are new products like mushrooms. the examples
i know of:

Joltid - the same people who are behind kazza, they have a very nice
product.


Sandvine - more complicated product then most of them but a vey serious
compnay.

Regards
Amos


-----Original Message-----
From: Moshe Konortov [mailto:moshek@...Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:28 AM
To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting

I'm doing it as a reseller for those product and also Expand doing it

Regards,

Moshe Konortov

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pace Balzan [mailto:mpb@...Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:28 AM
To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting


Has anyone been using/testing these products

care to comment about their performance and effectiveness.


cheers

Mark


----- Original Message -----
From: "Moshe Konortov" <moshek@ankor.co.il>
To: <isp-caching@isp-caching.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:39 AM
Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting


> Hi,
>
> Yes there are,
>
> Sandvine - at www.sandvine.com and cachelogic at www.cachelogic.com 
> They doing Edonkey and Fastrack and Gnutella. Sandvine is not a 
> caching system, its idea is to catch the p2p traffic and redirect it 
> to low cost lines
>
> Regards,
>
> Moshe Konortov
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pablo A. Destefanis (Ecoband) [mailto:pablo@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:49 AM
> To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
> Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting
>
> Interesting indeed! Is anyone using any caching engine to catch P2P 
> traffic? Are there other products out there?
>
> Best,
>
> Pablo.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ranko Zivojnovic [mailto:ranko@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 01:47
> To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
> Cc: thomas@...
> Subject: [isp-caching] RE: interresting
>
>
> I believe that you will find the following very interesting too:
>
> http://proxymus.spidernet.net
>
> Regards,
>
> Ranko
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Kirk [mailto:thomas@...> > Sent: 03 July 2003 12:58
> > To: isp-caching@isp-caching.com
> > Subject: [isp-caching] interresting
> >
> >
> > http://theregister.co.uk/content/6/31532.html
> >
> > --
> > Venlig hilsen/Kind regards
> > Thomas Kirk
> > ARKENA
> > tlf/phone +4570233456
> > thomas(at)arkena(dot)com
> > Http://www.arkena.com
> >
> >
> > "OK, son. Just remember to have fun out there today, and if you
lose,
> > I'LL KILL YOU!" -- Homer Simpson
> >
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