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Re: [isp-bgp] isp-bgp digest: May 23, 2005
  • To: isp-bgp@isp-bgp.com
  • Subject: Re: [isp-bgp] isp-bgp digest: May 23, 2005
  • From: "T.D.Wipnet (H.M.)" <tec@...>
  • Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:01:42 -0300

On Tuesday 24 May 2005 18:51, James wrote: 
> > Uh, wrong (as someone else pointed out).  Using PA space with
> > other ISPs is certainly possible.  Several of my customers are
> > doing it right now. They are aware that they cannot take it with
> > them if they ever terminate service with us.
> >
> > >The purpose of PA address space is that it is not de-aggregated.
> >
> > The purpose of PA address space is that is assigned to the
> > provider. They're paying the RIR fee for it.
> >
> > pt
>
> Also note that the popular usage of PA and PI space quite differs
> from RIPE NCC and ARIN land.
>

the latter is not a point at all

I think it is perfectly correct and understandable that it make sense 
to an ISP to maintain it's own IPs and it does not matter if he is 
multi-homed or not. Also it is not a question of /24 or /16 
or /whatever

I still go further, it would make sense for any transit AS that an 
"end" point ISP has it's own IPs.

And further it would make sense even for example for ARIN (or any 
other) to distribute /24s or less for any AS (not only for comercial 
purpose) and not for multihomed nets.

still it would make more sense if any transit AS REQUires that any ISp 
has his own AS and address space

why?

A transit AS has certainly N "dead" ISPs with still routed/alocated 
subnets, and NxN IPs within this or other subnets unused. All this 
from it's own address space. 

I believe that we have 30% (or more) of IP addresses wasted by not 
using them or more or at all.

probably not the right list to discuss this but I hooked into this 
thread by what was said


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RE:[isp-bgp] isp-bgp digest: May 23, 2005, Graham Lewis
Re: [isp-bgp] isp-bgp digest: May 23, 2005, Pete Templin
Re: [isp-bgp] isp-bgp digest: May 23, 2005, James
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