Internet.com
Get your
ISP-News
courtesy of
internetnews.com




Search ISP-Lists
Search:
ISP Channel
CLEC-Planet
ISP Glossary
ISP News
ISP-Planet
ISP-Lists
E-mail Newsletters
Opt-in Announcements
Discussion Forums
internet.com
IT
Developer
Internet News
Small Business
Personal Technology
International

Search internet.com
Advertise
Corporate Info
Newsletters
Tech Jobs
E-mail Offers

The ISP-Lists.com Email Discussion List Community

<- Previous Message | Next Message ->
Thread Index
Re:[isp-bgp] BCP for multi-homing to the same provider entail using a private ASN
  • To: isp-bgp@isp-bgp.com
  • Subject: Re:[isp-bgp] BCP for multi-homing to the same provider entail using a private ASN
  • From: Bob Tinkelman <bob@...>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:35:37 -0400 (EST)

A few days ago, Jeffrey Belles <jaffa@...> posted this
extract from the Sprint web site:

 From http://www.sprint.net/faq/as1790.html
"
The Autonomous System 1790 is reserved for use exclusively by those
customers that do not currently have another Internet Service Provider,
and currently have, or are in the process of implementing, multiple
connections utilizing the same IP space (multi-homed neworks) into the
Sprintlink backbone, via a dedicated IP Private Line. To utilize AS
1790, please contact your account team for ordering information.
"
I remember from when I worked for Verio that they did the same
thing (but with a different ASN, of course).

Is there any standard terminology for ASNs used in this way?
I've seen "private ASN" used as a synonym for "reserved ASN",
that is, referring to the high-numberd ASNs (64512-65535).
In any case, it appears that both Sprint and Verio and possibly
other large ISPs have decided that there are advantages to using
a non-reserved ASN for this purpose, as opposed to using one of
the reserved ASNs.

Is the reason for this obvious? Is it just that you don't need
to worry about making a mistake resulting in a bgp-route with an
ASN-path containing a reserved ASN leaking to the world?

In any case, I submitted an application to ARIN for a 2nd ASN to
be allocated to my network. I completed the application honestly,
indicating that the ASN would be assigned to a collection of nets
at different customer sites, but all the peering would be between
the new net and my existing net. I refered to Sprint's 1790 as an
example. ARIN rejected the application because the new ASN would
peer with only a single upstream.

Are Sprint and Verio actually doing something different with their
ASNs that makes them ARIN-legal? Or is this simply a case of
their having acquired the ASNs in a different way, and then using
them however they want, without ARIN having the energy to track
things like that?

--
Bob Tinkelman <bob@...>
ISPnet, Inc. 718.464.4747





To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at:
Jupitermedia Corp.
Attn: Discussion List Management
475 Park Avenue South
New York, NY 10016

Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.

Copyright 2004 Jupitermedia Corporation All Rights Reserved.

Replies
Re:[isp-bgp] BCP for multi-homing to the same provider entail using a private ASN, Jeffrey Belles
<- Previous Message | Next Message ->
Thread Index

ISP Glossary
Find an ISP Term

Need Help?

JupiterOnlineMedia

internet.comearthweb.comDevx.commediabistro.comGraphics.com

Search:

Jupitermedia Corporation has two divisions: Jupiterimages and JupiterOnlineMedia

Jupitermedia Corporate Info


Legal Notices, Licensing, Reprints, & Permissions, Privacy Policy.

Advertise | Newsletters | Tech Jobs | Shopping | E-mail Offers

Solutions
Whitepapers and eBooks
IBM eBook: Planning a Service Oriented Architecture
IBM eBook: Choosing the Right Architecture--What It Means for You and Your Business
Microsoft Article: Will Hyper-V Make VMware This Decade's Netscape?
Avaya Article: Using Intelligent Presence to Create Smarter Business Applications
Intel Go Parallel Article: Getting Started with TBB on Windows
Microsoft Article: 7.0, Microsoft's Lucky Version?
Avaya Article: How to Feed Data into the Avaya Event Processor
IBM Article: Developing a Software Policy for Your Organization
Microsoft Article: Managing Virtual Machines with Microsoft System Center
Intel Go Parallel Article: Intel Threading Tools and OpenMP
HP eBook: Storage Networking , Part 1
Microsoft Article: Solving Data Center Complexity with Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager 2007
MORE WHITEPAPERS, EBOOKS, AND ARTICLES
Webcasts
HP Video: StorageWorks EVA4400 and Oracle
HP Webcast: Storage Is Changing Fast - Be Ready or Be Left Behind
Microsoft Silverlight Video: Creating Fading Controls with Expression Design and Expression Blend 2
MORE WEBCASTS, PODCASTS, AND VIDEOS
Downloads and eKits
Red Gate Download: SQL Toolbelt and free High-Performance SQL Code eBook
Iron Speed Designer Application Generator
MORE DOWNLOADS, EKITS, AND FREE TRIALS
Tutorials and Demos
Silverlight 2 App and Walkthrough: Leverage Silverlight 2 with SQL Server and XML
IBM Article: Enterprise Search--Do You Know What's Out There?
HP Demo: StorageWorks EVA4400
Microsoft Article: The Progress and Promise of Deep Zoom
Microsoft How-to Article: Get Going with Silverlight and Windows Live
MORE TUTORIALS, DEMOS AND STEP-BY-STEP GUIDES