[isp-bgp] Re: BGP advantages

["Joshua Brady" <somitho@...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Anderson" <dean@...>
To: <isp-bgp@isp-bgp.com>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: [isp-bgp] Re: BGP advantages


> You need to have portable address space before BGP is going to useful.
>
> If you are too small to have portable address space, your only DIY choice
> is DNS failover. But this isn't really ideal.

I'll go along here....thats one way of doing things.

> The other (better) alternative is to find a provider like Av8 Internet,
> which is locally multihomed, and buy services from them.  A locally
> multihomed provider offers the benefits of BGP multihoming, locally.  In
> contrast, a large national provider can't offer those things.  The locally
> multihomed provider offers you everything you can get:  Multihoming (done
> locally) removes a failure at a national provider, and locally redundant
> physical connectivity protests your access to that provider.

*Checks to see what the authors email was* Hm, don't go pulling sales techniques
on list its not very nice, use off-list replys if you have to bug someone with a
sales pitch thats not looking for one.

Secondly your very wrong, the large national provider can't offer these things?
I believe many many providers do provide this. MCI I believe does a *shadow*
which allows you to have redundency and still be on a tier 1 providers backbone
if thats what you want.


> If they are really on top of their game, they will have multiple sites at
> different
> but still generally local sites, so that one of their sites isn't a
> critical failure point.

One thing you learn is EVERYTHING has a critical failure point, are you saying
these larger providers don't have multiple pops in that area? you said new
england so lets take NY, MA, NJ for example then, tell me....where MCI, L(3),
GBLX, AT&T's one pop is so I know where to look next time I am visiting say 60
hudson or 25 broadway or something along those lines.

> There are some things you can't do yourself.  We only do these things in
> New England.  Don't look to someone outside of your regional area to offer
> these things.

Wrong, if you can do it he can do it too, it just not be in the right cost range
or other factors may come up, you may encourage him to look only in a regional
ISP...but I will further encourage him and tell him that if he hasn't already to
go find a national ISP possibly a global ISP.

> Dean Anderson
> Av8 Internet, Inc
>

Joshua Brady
(Not affiliating this with any company)

>
>
> > From: "Eagle, Rob" <rob.eagle@...>
> >
> > Our company is currently looking at alternatives to our Radware LinkProof
> > solution.
> > We are multi-homed, have address space from both ISPs and not AS number.
> > I have always looked toward standards such as BGP to be my first choice, but
> > am having a hard time convincing the project team.
> > Is BGP that hard to get in?  What are the advantages of a BGP solution over
> > a DNS solution for multi-homing?  What are we losing?
> > Thanks in advance for any information provided.
> > Rob Eagle
> > 309-821-4525
>
>
>
>




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