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RE: Application Note: Securing BGP on Juniper Routers
] By the way, what are your ideas on unicast RPF? I hear it's now also
] available on Juniper.

I definitely like it and it has great applications in certain
environments.  It would also be nice if they added the reachable via-any
knob, but that may come in time.  It makes for easier administration of
anti-spoofing in a lot of cases.  URPF for all non-transit links with
symmetric traffic flows would be a great start.

] The thing that's really unfortunate is that the large networks don't
force
] their peers to do this. It's fairly trivial to set up something that 
] catches some spoofed stuff (for instance, 192.168/16 sources) and
tells 
] you from which peer it came. Then you can tell them to get their act 
] together or you'll depeer. If the tier-1 networks start to do this, 
] spoofing will come to an end in our lifetimes.

Since this is a ($) business, I don't think depeering will happen any
time soon due to traffic spoofing as this would likely cause a very
significant loss of revenue/peering/etc...  There are likely also
contractual obligations to consider in many cases.  Some form of a
penalty built into an agreement would definitely be nice, or even
discounts/bonuses for those that do follow anti-spoofing guidelines.
The incentive is just not there for this to take place on both sides,
and the smaller folks are often the ones to feel the pain.

] As long as we're talking about anti-(D)DoS measures, tell me what you 
] think of http://www.bgpexpert.com/antidos.php

#1 is commonly used though it effectively does the attackers job for
him, unless there is other infrastructure that is adversely affected as
a result.  Some have combined this with the use of backscatter tracing
to track the actual source of the attack though I don't see any mention
of this in the URL.  
#2 Should be used more, but it is a bit more difficult for transit
links.  This is relatively new in JUNOS and I've not yet taken the
opportunity to add it to the templates.
#3 This one makes very little sense.  It seems quite vague with little
operational detail and isn't very practical. 

Cheers,
-- steve







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